Friday, 22 June 2012

The Pre-Born Personhood Initiative

An anti-abortion group in Ohio is facing a significant shortfall in the number of signatures needed to ask voters in the presidential battleground this fall whether the state constitution should declare that life begins when a human egg is fertilized, putting up another obstacle for the "personhood" movement.
They've got just 5% of the signatures needed.

And they don't seem to be trying very hard. They're not spending any money. Even the the Catlick Church isn't on side.

I wonder why.

Oh look.
The personhood movement has already faced setbacks in other states this year. Supporters fell short of the required number of signatures to qualify for the November ballots in Nevada and California. And in Oklahoma, the state's highest court halted an amendment effort there to grant personhood rights to human embryos, saying the measure is unconstitutional.

Voters have rejected similar proposals that made ballots in 2008 and 2010 in Colorado.

They also defeated the initiative in November 2011 in Mississippi, which has some of the nation's toughest abortion regulations.
Coz it's a loser idea?

On Twitter, I've been annoying the heck out of @roseblue/SUZYALLCAPS by characterizing Woodworth's Wank (M312) as a personhood initiative and posting links to possible implications of it, including criminalizing miscarriage, outlawing all abortions, banning hormonal and IUD birth control, possibly even banning in vitro fertilization treatments.

Those concerns have been raised in Ohio, but are dismissed by the measure's proponents.
Supporters in Ohio have hoped to alleviate those concerns by rephrasing their proposed amendment to say it wouldn't affect "genuine contraception" or in vitro fertilization procedures.
Well, then.

On Twitter, when I asked if M312 would entail investigation of miscarriages. @roseblue/SUZYALLCAPS said: 'No'.

And we all felt reassured.

Thing is, SUZYALLCAPS doesn't like the characterization as 'personhood'. SHE knows that under that rubric, it has LOST big time, and among the strongest voices against it are 'infertility advocates'.

(Plain text to avoid juvenile fetal porn redirect.)

SUZY says:
This is why I think pro-lifers should use the label "fetal rights" or "unborn rights" advocate.

Because that's what it ultimately is about.
Right, then.

Here's your assignment, fans of women's rights: Tweet, blog, and talk about Woodworth's Wank as a 'personhood' initiative.

It's not, of course, but as I'm saying on Twitter:


liberal supporter said...

Should we also grant personhood to pre-immigrants? They're not here yet either. Or is there a jurisdiction problem? The government don't reach into other countries and claim to be sovereign over anyone there, in case they might one day want to emigrate here. Why should the government reach into the cunts of the nation? Get out of there you uninvited pervs!

liberal supporter said...

don't -> doesn't ...

Sixth Estate said...

If we start at the moment of conception, then the miscarriage rate would have to count all ova which are fertilized but fail to develop properly from there, fail to implant, etc. That would make the miscarriage rate far higher than the abortion rate, or, put another way, God kills more fetuses than abortion doctors do.

So instead of banning abortions, shouldn't we ban God?

liberal supporter said...

After her breakfast of pre-born chicken, will SUZY demand chickenhood for all the eggs? Will she demand humane slaughter for the eggs? After all, they're just put in a cooler until they die. Shouldn't the eggs be rendered unconscious with a stun gun or a bolt first?

liberal supporter said...

If Woodworth thinks the personhood rules should be expanded due to science, then shouldn't every cell in my body be considered a preborn? What makes a fertilized egg more special than one of my sperm? Either could become a baby given modern science. Is it the unique DNA? If so, then a twin is a sub human or more precisely, a half human.

JJ said...

Now THERE'S an idea whose time has definitely come...

JJ said...

If the "personhood" idea is running out of steam south of the border, it's doomed here.

I guess it started with Mississippi: if "fetal personhood" ever had a chance, it was in that reddest of red states. Where it lost, big time. I think that discouraged the fetushists a lot, as will these subsequent asskickings.


But that doesn't mean we let our guard down... nope.

Anonymous said...

We should also mention that masturbation should also be outlawed, as other practices some priests like a lot...

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